Eternal Security Once saved always saved refuted

Once saved always saved IF you live it.

Eternal Life comes from the Abrahamic Covenant

The Law of Death and the Law of Liberty

 

To understand the two laws we will first understand the

 

 

1.  Covenant made with Abraham

 

 The Foundation of Eternal Life

 

 Lets understand Biblical Covenant

Genesis 15:9,10. He said to him, "Bring me a heifer three years old, a female goat three years old, a ram three years old, a turtledove, and a young pigeon." He brought him all these and cut them in two, laying each half over against the other; but he did not cut the birds in two. The significance of this "cutting" of this covenant is found in Jeremiah 34:18. "The men who violated my covenant, who did not lift up my words of the covenant which they cut before me

 I will make them like the calf that they cut into two and passed between." When two parties wished to make a blood covenant they take the animal, cut the animal into two pieces. The two parties would then walk between the two pieces saying "I will do the terms of this covenant, if I do not, you may do to me what we did to this animal." A common covenental phrase found in the Hebrew Bible is "make a covenant." The Hebrew word for "make" is "carat" meaning "cut." The Hebrew word for "covenant" is "beriyt" and comes from the root barah meaning "meat." The Hebrew phrase "carat beriyt" (usually translated as "make a covenant") literally means "cut the meat." So if we break the covenant with God then what Happens to us?

 

1.  Covenant made with Abraham

 

Genesis 17:1 (KJV) 

    And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

The covenant  was for Abraham and his seed to walk before the Lord Perfect .The Covenant was not Circumcision but perfection. .

“The Same as today

 

 

Matthew 5:48 (KJV)

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

 

·        We must ask ourselves what is Perfection?

 

·        The word teaches us that the five fold ministry will be on Earth and teach us until we all become perfect.

Ephes. 4:13 (KJV) 

    Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Col. 1:28 (KJV) 

    Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

 

·        We see that Charity/Love is the Bond of perfection in

Col. 3:14 (KJV) 

    And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

 

·        We see that Our Love can be made perfect in

1 John 4:17-18 (KJV) 

    Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. [18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

·        We see that that which is perfect is Charity/ Love in

1 Cor. 13:8-10 (KJV) 

    Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

·        We see that the Greatest commandment was LOVE/perfection

OLD Testament

Deut. 6:5 (KJV) 

    And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

NEW Testament

Mark 12:30 (KJV) 

    And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

OLD/New Testament

Luke 10:27 (KJV) 

    And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Galatians 5:14 (KJV) 

    For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Same commandment same Covenant as we will see.

 

 

·        So Gods covenant with Abraham was Perfect Love. Perfect Love will put one in the Law of Liberty/Freedom

 

 

James 1:25 (KJV) 

    But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Genesis 17:1 (KJV)

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

 

 

 

The Law of YHWH/the LORD is to be perfect. Perfection/Love  is what converts the soul in

Psalm 19:7 (KJV) 

    The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

 

LAW-תּוֹרָה‎Strong's -a precept or statute

L0RD ‏יהוה‎YHWH

Perfect  ‏תָּמִים‎Perfect/Perfection/ without blemish Hebrew Dictionary

Converting שׁוּב‎—Return/returning

Soul נֶפֶשׁ‎—Soul

Testimony עֵדוּת‎— testimony /witness —

Lord יהוה‎YHWH

Sure  אָמַן‎— believe /assurance /faithful

 

I believe this is the true interpretation of the verse.

Psalm 19:7 (EVG-TV)  The statute of YHWH is Perfection returning the soul ; the testimony of YHWH is faithfull , making wise the simple ones.

 We see that God only keeps Covenant with those that Love Him and Keep

His Commandments in Deut. 7:9 (KJV) 

    Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

 

Galatians 3:7 (KJV)

 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

They which are Born again are of the seed of Abraham.

Galatians 3:16 (KJV)  

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

The promise was to the seed “singular” meaning they are only one seed of Abraham. So if they are only one seed then the Jews and the Christians are of the same seed.  We must go back to the Parable of the seed sower Mat.13:3-9 in the previous teaching of the Mingled seed. Every tree that bears fruit bears fruit of the same “its kind”

What we must do now is to understand what the word faith means ANSWER: The word faith here is the Greek word

  pis'-tis   and is a PRESENT PARTICIPLE in the Greek. The perfect tense in the Greek which is like an aorist tense (a definite action) that continues from that point all the way to the present. As an example, if I wash my hands I can be doing it in the present tense. When they are cleansed, as a finished act, we would be using the aorist tense. If they remained clean from that point, I could say that they were clean by the perfect tense. So those who keep the faith by being obedient without sin in there life right now are the Children of Abraham.

 

Galatians 3:29 (KJV) 

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.  We whom are Christians are of Abrahams seed meaning that we are of the same tree.

Ephes. 2:11 (KJV)

Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;  We were once Gentiles but we are now of the seed of Abraham or part of Israel.

By this Covenant all from Abraham till now have received Eternal Life by faith unto righteousness looking to the Cross.

1 Cor. 10:4

    And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. “ The Old Testament saints looked to the cross for Salvation with faith unto righteousness being born again”

Acts 19:1-4 (KJV) 

    And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, [2] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? “Since they were Born Again”  

And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. [3] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? “Paul is letting them know that they were baptized into the Messiah by the Holy Spirit” And they said, Unto John's baptism. [4] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

 “We see that they had faith unto righteousness looking to the Messiah that would follow or in other words they were born again by faith unto righteousness looking to the cross”  

·        Now we must ask ourselves Who was this Covenant for?

 

Genesis 17:9 (KJV)  And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.

 

·        It was made for Abraham’s seed which are we if we keep our Faith.

 

·        Now Lets see how God made the Covenant with Abraham

God made the covenant with Abraham in

Genesis 15:9-10 (KJV) 

    And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon. [10] And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.        בָּתַר‎ baw-thar'; a primitive root, to:- divide.

“or Twain”

Genesis 15:17-18 (KJV) 

    And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. [18] In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Genesis 15:17-18 (KJV) 

    And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.  [18] In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

 

 

Jesus did the Same under the New Covenant which we will look into latter”

 

·        The sign of the covenant was circumcision. Circumcision was not the covenant.

·         

Genesis 17:11 (KJV) 

    And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

“token- oth; probably from Hebrew 225 ('uwth) (in the sense of appearing); a signal (literal or figurative), as a flag, beacon, monument, omen, prodigy, evidence, etc. :- mark, miracle, (en-) sign, token.”

Everyone that was circumcised was required to obey the commandment to walk perfect before Yahweh but Israel Broke Covenant with Yahweh and the Law of Moses had to be put into place because of transgression against the covenant.

Romans 4:11 (KJV) 

    And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

 

He was justified before he was circumcised that he might be the father of believing uncircumcised Gentiles.

 

·        The sign that we as Christians have under the New covenant in Yahshua is that we circumcise the Heart .

Romans 2:29 (KJV) 

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

·        If Abraham and his seed would walk perfect “Love” before Yahweh then they would inherit the Promise.

Genesis 17:7-8 (KJV) 

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant,  to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

עוֹלָם‎—: o-lawm'   properly concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or future).

So this Covenant is Eternal for the seed of Abraham or the Children of Faith Jew and Gentile.

·        “This covenant was not made void by the Law of Moses it continued.”

 

 

 

Galatians 3:17 (KJV) 

    And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Romans 4:14 (KJV) 

    For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

 

·        The Word tells us what the seed will inherit when they obey the Covenant made with Abraham. Which is Perfection “LOVE through Christ”

 Genesis 15: [8] And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. This will not be completely be established until the whole nation of Israel receives Yahshua as the Messiah Zech.3:9-10  fulfilling the 7th. seal and the Bondman is freed

“ See the seven seals in the prophetic wonders now thru eternity” at Armageddon then they will have Jubilee and all the Land promised them they will inherit. Genesis 15:18b. from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

They have never inherited all this land because of transgression of the Abrahamaic covenant but they will when they receive Yahshua as Messiah and walk perfect unto righteousness in his teaching of instructions.

The whole nation of Israel will no longer sin nor transgress the covenant God Made with Abraham. Which was that they must walk before him, and be thou perfect.

 God has made a  new covenant with Israel or a  re-newed  covenant which we will deal with shortly .

We will see as well that the Law of Moses didn’t take the place of the Abrahamic covenant that God made with Abraham and his seed. 

Matter of fact we will see that thru the Abrahamic covenant they were saved not the Mosaic one.

·        First we must understand why God had to bring forth the Law “ teaching of instructions” of Moses 

 

 

Galatians 3:19 (KJV) 

    Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

The Law was added because of Transgression of Love faith unto righteousness.

Israel broke covenant with Yahweh and didn’t walk in faith unto  rigorousness. The covenant “be thou perfect”was for all the seed of Abraham and they had to keep it to receive it same as today.

Genesis 17:9 (KJV)

 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.

Eloheem/God had to make a  Covenant with Moses and Israel because they transgressed broke the Abrahamaic covenant . The Promises could not be theirs until they became perfect and received Yahshua as the MESSIAH. Yahshua/Jesus had to come to make a Re-Newed Covenant with Israel

Ephes. 2:15 (KJV) 

    Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

·        This was the completion of the Abrahamic Covenant a renewed or refreshed covenant it was made the same as in.

 

2.New Covenant

·        We must look at three Covenants made but only two where done for eternal life or was it only one that was eternal since God don’t Break Covenant.

1.     The Abrahamaic a true eternal covenant was made by the separation or twain of flesh.     “for eternal life”

2.     The Mosaic The Word was spoken to Moses because of Transgression to Abraham’s Covenant. “no eternal life”

3.     Yahshua’- He himself was that flesh that was made twain for us.

·        Only Abraham and Yahshua Covenant was made with the separation of flesh the only way an eternal covenant can be made. “for eternal life”

 

 

 

 

Hebrews 8:1-8 (KJV) 

    Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [2] A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

[3] For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

[4] For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: [5] Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. [6] But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. [7] For if that πρῶτος pro'-tosFormer — “The one before this one Mosaic” covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the    δεύτεροςdyoo'-ter-osafterwardafter Mosaic”    [8] For finding fault with them, “Meaning - They where not walking with God Perfect as was commanded them .”

 he saith,

Jeremiah 31:31-34 (KJV)   Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:                                                                                                                                                                                                                           This word New don’t mean Newly created but rather [new- Hebrew Word: ‏חָדַשׁ‎   Transliteration: ḥādash: khaw-dash'  a primitive root; to be new; causative to rebuild :- renew, repair] 

·        “The Abrahamaic covenant was re-newed even with better promises” The Baptism of the Holy Ghost was one of those promises we as believers can have thru this re-freshed /New Covenant that came at Christ Resurrection.

Jeremiah 31: [32] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; “ Not according to the Mosaic Covenant but the Abrahamaic one”which my covenant they brake, “they transgressed the Abrahamaic one”  although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:[33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my “Teaching of instructions” in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

Fulfilled at the resurrection” for some but not all because of unbelief Israel was broken off until the end of the Tribulation when all will be saved at Armageddon on that Day Zech.3:9-10 

 [34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8: [13] In that he saith, A “re”new“ed” covenant, he hath made the πρῶτος pro'-tosFormer — “The covenant  before this one the Mosaic”  old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Eze.36:20-38 / Zech.3:9-10  All he House of Israel will be saved in one day on that day at the 7th. Seal “The Bondman will be free of Bondage see the 7 seals in the prophetic wonders now thru eternity” at Armageddon. This will be on Yowm Kippur which will be a Jubilee and the Promise will be given to them.

·        Again here is the Covenant made with Abraham.

We are under the same covenant God Made with Abraham

Hebrews 9:15 (KJV) 

    And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament,

( kahee-nos'; of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while Greek 3501 (neos) is properly so with respect to age) :- new.

From the Old Testament Jeremiah 31:31 (KJV)   Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:  khaw-dawsh'; from Hebrew 2318 (chadash); new :- fresh, new thing.

Eccles. 1:10 (KJV) 

    Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.  khaw-dawsh'; from Hebrew 2318 (chadash); new :- fresh, new thing.

“In other words a renewed Covenant not a brand new Covenant.” )The only true Eternal covenant is the one  Made with Abraham and Fulfilled by Jesus upon his death burial and resurrection. The two are the same.

We can see the creation of something new in

Numbers 16:30 (KJV) 

    But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.

 ber-ee-aw'; feminine from Hebrew 1254 (bara'); a creation, i.e. a novelty :- new thing.

 

.Heb.9:15b.  that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament,

( pro'-tos; contracted superlative of Greek 4253 (pro); foremost (in time, place, order or importance) :- before, beginning, best, chief (-est), first (of all), former.  ( The Covenant made with Abraham not Moses the Jews transgressed the First ) they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. (The promise came thru the First- Abrahamic Covenant  those called to receive the promise of Eternal Life.)

Hebrews 11:1-7 (KJV) 

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [2] For by it the elders obtained a good report.

[3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. [4] By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, (Faith unto righteousness)
God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. [5] By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. [6] But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. [7] By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. “We will all Old and New Testament saints receive a glorified body at the same time. Some believe that Jesus preached the Good News to the Old Testament saints when he was in Hell for three days and they were saved at that time but this is not true.

Born Again

John 3:3-10 (KJV) 

    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. “No one can Enter into Heaven unless they are Born Again including the Old Testament Saints”   [4] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? [5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. “All must be Old and New” [6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. [8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. [9] Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? [10] Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? “Jesus was letting Nicodemus Know that he should have understood the Born again Experience  being a Teacher ,but he didn’t because by this time they were so wrapped up in the Law and had totally forgotten the true Covenant God made with Abraham and how one must be saved.”

 

Deut. 32:18 (KJV) 
    Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.

yalad,  yaw-lad'; a primitive root; to bear young; causative to beget; specifically to show lineage :- bear, beget, birth ([-day]), born, (make to) bring forth (children, young), bring up, calve, child, Same as Greek  an-ag-en-nah'-o; which means born again 1Peter.1:23 

 

 We see this as well in Psalm 2:7 (KJV)  I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. ,  yaw-lad';

Or in other words Born Again  This is why Jesus said this to Nicodemus in  John 3:5-6 (KJV)  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

“Proving that at this time and before men were born of water and spirit.”

[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit

John 3:10 (KJV)  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?  Nicodemus should have understood that one must be born again by faith unto righteousness unto the Messiah/Jesus.

We see the Holy spirit living in David in Psalm 51:11-12 (KJV)  Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. [12] Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

We see the Holy spirit was in him “Moses” and  in his people the Jews in 

Isaiah 63:11 (KJV)    Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?   If we study the Old and New Testament for the words The Spirit of the Lord came upon we see that the word came upon is a mistranslation and truly means    haw-yaw'; a primitive root [compare Hebrew 1933 (hava')]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary) :- beacon, × altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, × have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, × use.

The Spirit of the Lord existed in them.                                                                           Isaiah 61:1a. (KJV) The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; We will look again that the spirit of Christ was in the Old Testament saints in 1 Peter 1:11a  Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,  We know that the Spirit of the Lord was within Yahshua / Jesus not upon him.

 Luke 4:18 (KJV)  The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,

ep-ee'—on or in —

Mark 1:4 (KJV)  John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. This is the Baptism into the Messiah / Christ.                                                                                            We can also see a mistranslation of scripture in the following           

Matthew 3:16 (KJV)  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Mark 1:10 (KJV)  And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

Luke 3:22 (KJV) And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

John 1:32 (KJV) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.                                              In all these verses the Holy spirit didn’t descend upon him but in him.                     ep-ee'—in or on    We see Just after the Holy Ghost came in Jesus he was full of the Holy Ghost not just the Holy Ghost upon Him but in Him .  Luke 4:1 (KJV) And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,  By this we see that when it speaks of the Spirit of the Lord upon the Old Testament saints it is speaking of the Spirit of the Lord in them and operating in there lives. Or born again or saved same as today   To understand this we must understand the Baptism of the Holy Ghost spoken of in Mt.3:11; Acts 1:5 ;Jn.4:14                                                                                                                             First we must understand the three baptisms.                                                                  1.Water  ; The baptism into water is essential to obedience and to a "good conscience" after one is saved and in Christ (Matt. 28:19; 1 Pet. 3:21; 1 John 5:6-10); The minister baptizes the believer in water (Matt. 28:19)

2.Jesus The Baptism "into Christ" is essential to salvation (Gal. 3:26-27; 5:24; 1 Cor. 12:13; 2 Cor. 5:17; Rom. 6:3-12; Col. 2:11-13) The Holy Spirit is the agent that baptizes the believer "into Christ" and "into His body," the church (1 Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27; Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:12).This is the New Covenant.

3.Holy Ghost The baptism into the Holy Spirit is essential to receiving power for service (Luke 24:49; John 14:12-17; Acts 1:4-8) Christ baptizes the same believer in the Holy Ghost, provided he understands, asks for (Luke 11:13), obeys God (Acts 5:32), and has faith for it (John 7:37-39; 14:12-17; Acts 1:4-2:4).This is the Promise spoken of  by Jesus in  Luke 24:49; John 14:12-17;  .This being a promise was part of the reward under the New Covenant which came at Christ Resurrection. It is for those who are obedient after salvation and is for those that believe that are of  the seed of Abraham.

Matthew 3:11 (KJV)   I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: “We see that John was baptizing those who had repented and had faith unto righteousness or they were born again. We also see that Jesus is the one that Baptizes us in the Holy Ghost and with Fire .The Baptism of the Holy Ghost     “Which came at Pentecost”  is not the Baptism into Christ in which all believers from Adam till now were saved.” Luke 1:15 (KJV)  For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.       Luke 1:41 (KJV)   And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:                                                                                        Luke 1:67 (KJV)   And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,       filled- play'-tho; a prolonged form of a primary pleo, pleh'-o (which appears only as an alternate in certain tenses and in the reduplication form pimplemi); to “fill” (literal or figurative [imbue, influence, supply]); specially to fulfil (time) :- accomplish, full (...come), furnish.

The fullness of the Holy Ghost “ into Christ “ not the Baptism of the Holy Ghost which had not yet came.

John 7:39 (KJV)   (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

“The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is only for those who believe not for the unbeliever this is one reason why many who believe in Christ but don’t believe in the fullness of the spirit of Baptism of the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues of fire aren’t baptized in the spirit.”

Luke 4:1 (KJV)  And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,    play'-race; from Greek 4130 (pletho); replete, or covered over; by analogy complete :- full.

Acts 1:5 (KJV)  For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Now Lets look at the  examples of faith unto righteousness unto Eternal Life that everyone has to have to be Born Again Old and New Testament –in              1 Peter 1:16-23 (KJV)     Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. [17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: (God has no respect of persons New and or Old Testament .We are all to be Holy as he is Holy) [18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;( Tradition of the fathers Empty, foolish, unprofitable, and vain traditions and rituals.  The Jews had added innumerable religious burdens and empty ceremonies which they held to be essential to salvation but this was not so).. [19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: [20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

 (All saints were and are saved by looking to the Cross which was foreordained  before the foundation of the world.)[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. [22] Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:                                                                          (The ones that obey the truth with a pure Heart walking in Love) [23a] Being born again,  an-ag-en-nah'-o; from Greek 303 (ana) and Greek 1080 (gennao); to beget or (by extension) bear (again) :- beget, (bear) × again.              Acts 13:33 (KJV)    God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.                                                   ghen-nah'-o; from a variation of Greek 1085 (genos); to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figurative to regenerate :- bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.      &