The Strong Delusion
of
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ONCE SAVED - ALWAYS SAVED
Unconditionaly
"2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Ephes. 4:30-32
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
This word for seal is from the Hebrew word ※ tm' emet§.
The Hebrew word emet tm' when broken down means
Aleph-A'= The word of Eloheem§God§
Mem-m = Has been tested
Tav-t =And is found to be Truth※emet§
John
hath set to his seal that God is ' true. t
TAV -Impression - The Seal of Creation
Unconditional Eternal Security Refuted
. Calvin makes the nature of penal atonement distinctly clear. He said,
"If Christ had merely died a corporeal [bodily] death, no end would have been accomplished by it; it was requisite, also, that he should feel the severity of the Divine vengeance, in order to appease the wrath of God, and satisfy his justice. Hence it was necessary for him to contend with the powers of hell and the horror of eternal death." 1
Thus, punishment is the validating essence in penal satisfaction, not blood and death. And punishment cannot constitute Atonement whatsoever. Accordingly, as noted, there can be no deliverance from sin.
Another problem here is that Calvin had no clue why Jesus had to shed his Blood.
※See sin is in the Blood§
Hebrews 5:9 (KJV)
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
First we will look at the meaning of the blood covenant?
The procedure for making a blood covenant can be found in Genesis 15:9,10. He said to him, "Bring me a heifer three years old, a female goat three years old, a ram three years old, a turtledove, and a young pigeon." He brought him all these and cut them in two, laying each half over against the other; but he did not cut the birds in two. The significance of this "cutting" of this covenant is found in Jeremiah 34:18. "The men who violated my covenant, who did not lift up my words of the covenant which they cut before me,
I will make them like the calf that they cut into two and passed between." When two parties wished to make a blood covenant they take the animal, cut the animal into two pieces. The two parties would then walk between the two pieces saying "I will do the terms of this covenant, if I do not, you may do to me what we did to this animal." A common covenental phrase found in the Hebrew Bible is "make a covenant." The Hebrew word for "make" is "carat" meaning "cut." The Hebrew word for "covenant" is "beriyt" and comes from the root barah meaning "meat." The Hebrew phrase "carat beriyt" (usually translated as "make a covenant") literally means "cut the meat." So if we break the covenant with God then what Happens to us?
UES*= Unconditional Eternal Security /Once saved always saved Teachings and scriptures are in Blue
EVG-TV = Evangelist Timothy Vanhook UES Refuted
﹞ 1.,UES *Can those born of God leave Christ?
1John
"They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us.
For if they had belonged to us, (Once Saved) they would have remained
with us; (Always Saved) but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." John indicates here that leaving Christ indicates that one had never been born of God
1John.2:18-26(KJV)
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. [19] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. "This is not saying they were never of us but rather they walked away from the Church and no longer was part of them. John's word continued refers not to the continuing a Christian, but to the remaining in the Church, if you are a Christian.
We can see that one can seece to continue in Christ as well . We can see this in Ezekiel33:12(KJV) Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. Ezekiel33:18(KJV) When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.
1John.2: [20] But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. [21] I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. [22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
We find the context of the scripture in [24] Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. "Let Jesus abide in you from which you recieved in the beginning " If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you,"Telling us that it is conditional IF." ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. "If you let Jesus remain in you the born again experience will remain in you and you sahll continue in the Son and the Father if you dont then no." [25] And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. "This is what you have to do to recieve Eternal Life continue in the Son dont walk away from him because then you will have no part in Him." [26] These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. "UES doctrine is spoken of here they will seduce you into believing a lie and you and your love ones will be dammed."
Many have used this 1John
While it is a fact that there are many who wear the name of Christian are not really believers at all, this does not prove that those who defect from the faith were never genuine in the estimate of their salvation.
They use this specific application of John to certain individuals as a blanket answer to any and all situations. The context of the verse in question is dealing with the false teachers who had infiltrated the church in which John is writing to. They wore the label "Christian," but it was the Gnostic version of Christianity .
Dr. Daniel Steele observed, "They were not of us." This means that they were not in sympathy with the church at the time of their withdrawal. It does not signify that they were never genuine Christians. The fact that there are withered and fruitless branches now in the true vine (John 15:2) does not prove that those branches were never alive, but, rather, it proves their former life. It is a case of manifest apostasy, beginning in the spirit and ending in the flesh."
D.D. Whedon writes, "Alford, following Dusterdieck, has an elaborate dissertation on the passage, as if it had some bearing on the question of the necessary final perseverance of all true believers. He writes as if the apostle assumed a universal law in the
It does not say, or assume, that all Christians will forever stay Christians; but that it be assumed, when we know nothing to the contrary, that these men would have remained in the Church if they had been, and as long as they were, Christians. Why not?"
In this passage we are left with several possibilities:
1. These heretics in this Christian assembly were never truly converted, and the assertion that many make that these "anti-Christs" were never believers as evidenced by their departure. Even if we hold to this interpretation of this passage, we do not have any warrant to make a universal application outside of this specific scenario. To make every case of apostasy outside of the situation that John addresses to mean that certain people were never saved could not be proved from this singular text. The passage does not say directly, or indirectly, that a true believer cannot fall away. To draw that this verse proves that you cannot fall away and be lost if you are a believer is a mere assumption and theological interjection.
2. It is valid interpretation to say that this verse is asserting that those who leave the assembly of believers were not believers or in sympathy with believers at the moment of their departure. This does not prove that they had never been genuine believers. I believe this to be the most accurate interpretation of this passage.
3. It is true that both situations are evident in the Church. There are those who are in "membership" on a human level, but have never been a member on a "spiritual" level. They appear to be Christians, but have never been born-again.
It is also evident from the Scriptures and experience that people who have had a vital and radical conversion to Christ at a certain point in their lives have abandoned their faith later on. This is partially evidenced in the constant exhortations and warnings to believers in Scripture that they must abide, continue, endure to the end, remain, and to avoid departing, apostasy, and not to drift away. These exhortations assert real commands and possibilities. If we were unable to fall away, then these commands and exhortations are useless. The argument that a true believer cannot fall away and ultimately be finally lost would certainly imply that God is confused about this issue.
It is a confusing and contrary statement to make this passage say that, "If you ever fall away from the faith, then you were never in the faith." This is the same nonsense as saying, "If I ever leave
We are to believe what the whole of Scripture is teaching us, and not to build what we believe about any issue upon any singular verse.
﹞ 2.UES *Can those born of God live a lifestyle of sin?
1John 3:6 "No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him." According to the second part of this verse, no one who lives a lifestyle of sin had ever been a "real" Christian. He had never known Christ. He had never been born of God. Furthermore, according to the first part of this verse, of those who do "live in him" (are born of God - are real Christians) not one of them lives a lifestyle of sin. Why is that? John explains a few verses later in 1John 3:9
"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God." The word "cannot" is the greek word "dunamai" where we get the English "dynamite" and it refers to ability (see its usage in Hebrews
Conclusion: The basic resolution to the objections that both the Free Grace believers and Arminians have against Calvin's 5th point concerning the Perseverance of the Saints is to simply say that once born of God, a Christian loses the ability to chose to leave Christ and he loses the ability to chose to live a lifestyle of sin. If he does either of these, such is an indication that he had not yet been born of God.
This is what the Bible teaches. Both the Free Grace believers and Arminians tend to object to this idea in that both groups believe that after being born of God, there is no change in your free will.
1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Pt.1. abideth 米έ糸肋
Pt.2. seen horao,
Pt.3.Known 污牝糸ώ考百肋 :
Those that Remain in Him Sinneth not. Whosoever sinneth does not discern the truth and understand or take heed to it. Meaning they didn＊t remain in him because they didn＊t decern the truth and understand that one cannot remain if they sin Whosoever is abiding/ continueing in Christ Decerning and understanding the truth will not sin but if you are not abiding or obeying him then the truth is not in you and you are not free.
We see those who receive the truth in John 8:31-35 (KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue ※:
[32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. . So if we continue in the truth which these men didn＊t they walked away from God ※sinned§ because they weren＊t obedient to him and the truth didn＊t set them free of the sin that they committed previously. This can even happen years latter when one is not continuing to obey and believe then the truth is no longer in them.
John 8:31-35 (KJV)
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue ※:
Romans
John 8:38-47 (KJV) I speak that which I have seen with my Father: ※ Obedience-Perfect Love§
and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. ※disobedience-sin§ [39] They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.※UES Believe this as well they say we are of the seed of Abraham § Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. " ※If you were of the seed of Abraham you UES would as well§ We as well if we are of the seed of Abraham we would obey Gods word ." [40] But now ye seek to kill me, ※ UES Crucify him afresh continuously over and over.§
a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. " I tell them the truth " [41] Ye do the deeds of your father. "Satan/sin" Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication;
UES SAYS " We be not born of fornication were born of God it is impossible for us to be in fornication or spiritual Adultry." we have one Father, even God. "God is our Father " [42] Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: " If God is your Father you would Love Him
John 14:23-24 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
※[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. ※[43] Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. "Because the truth is revealed to them that obey his word Jn.14-24 above" [44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. " The Lust of your Father you will do or say you can do " He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. " Anyone who abides not in the truth ※Gods word§ then there father is the Devil 1 John 3:8 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; ※ Or the Devil is his Father." When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. ※All who lie are his Children§ [45] And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. [46] Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? [47] He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. "If we are of God -1. born Again 2. Obedient in present tense. we will hear Gods voice/words "
3.UES * Jeremiah 32:38-41 (Concerning the Promise of the New Covenant) "They will be my people, and I will be their God. I will give them singleness of heart and action, so that they will always fear me for their own good and the good of their children after them. I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me. I will rejoice in doing them good and will assuredly plant them in this land with all my heart and soul." 1John 2:19, 1John 3:6,9 (as explained above)
3.EVG-TV Refuted 每 ※see the re-newed covenant §
This scripture has nothing to do with the Born Again Adopted Jew.-Jeremiah 32:38-41 is only talking to the Jew not the adopted Jew. This is speaking of the 1,000 year reign of Christ when all
4.UES * John 5:24 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. " Jn. 5:24. The verse says " shall not come into condemnation;." Therefore, one cannot lose it!
4.EVG-TV -Refuted - These are basic salvation scriptures and again do nothing to endorse UES doctrine but they do reveal who will receive Eternal Life. What we must do now is to understand what the word Believes means ANSWER: The word in Jn.
Therefore, the Lord is saying here that we must CONTINUOUSLY BE BELIEVING the Father, that is, his testimony about Jesus, which implies that Jesus alone is to be the focal point of our TRUST for our soul's salvation. See Matt. 17:5 cf. Jn. 14:6. We will never be condemned, as long as we keep this condition -- a continued 100% trusting in Jesus for our soul's salvation.
We see this in Jesus doctrine of Eternal Security the Key to the Kingdom in the seed sown on good ground.
Matthew 13:23a But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; Mark 4:20a And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it Luke 8:15 (KJV) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Hear 每Understand-Receive and Keep with an Honest and Good Heart.
5.UES* John 6:37-40 (KJV) All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. [38] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. [39] And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
[40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
5.EVG-TV - Refuted - Gods part is sure he will not throw us away but we do him we loose the Faith and our first love and depart from God
1 Tim. 1:19 (KJV) Holding faith, and a good conscience; which somehaving put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
Facts about Faith
1. It can be shipwrecked (1 Tim.
2. Put away or thrust away (1 Tim.
3. Turned away from (Acts 13:8)
4. Made void (Romans
5. Exercised in vain (1 Cor.
6. Held to or let go (1 Tim.
7. Departed from (1 Tim. 4:1)
8. Denied (1 Tim. 5:8; Rev. 2:13)
9. Cast off (1 Tim.
10. Erred from (1 Tim.
11. Overthrown (2 Tim.
12. Abandoned (2 Tim. 3:8)
13. Kept or lost (2 Tim. 4:7)
14. Found missing (Mark
15. Adequate or fail (Luke
16. Made without effect (Romans 3:3)
17. Dead (James
18. Obeyed or disobeyed (Acts 6:7)
19. Built up or destroyed (Jude
20. Continued in or discontinued in (Acts
Rev. 2:4 (KJV) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
6.UES *John 10:28-29 and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. 29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand."
6.EVG-TV Refuted - We can see as well that a Key scripture is left out again in which would put things into context. We must examine Jn.
John 10:27-29 (KJV)
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Those that follow him or those that obey him hear his voice
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
We can see with a small amount of scholarship, that this verse can be made so everyone can understand what it is saying .
First We must go to the Greek text, the hearing
and following
The word translated "follow" is a PRESENT INDICATIVE ACTIVE in the Greek, which asserts something which is occurring while the speaker is making the statement. In other words, as long as we remain faithful and CONTINUE to follow Jesus, He will, indeed, assure us that we will "never perish," v.28.
No such promise, however, is given here (or anywhere in the Bible) to one that would turn and start "to follow Satan" as Paul knew could and did happen (1 Tim.
Some read into Jn.
The word is plain we see that sin separates us from that relationship with God in Isaiah 59:2 (KJV) But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Those that are living in a state of continual sin are not his sheep because they are neither hearing nor following Jesus. Nor can he hear them ※unless they Repent§ Who are secure? The sheep that are following his word. These cannot be snatched (taken away by force)? The sheep Who are being obedient to Jesus giving (present tense) have eternal life?
Only those who are hearing and following right now! Whom do Jesus and the Father protect in their hands? Not the one that heard and followed for a period of time such was the case with many of his disciples, John 6:66 (KJV) From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him We must ask ourselves Who are Jesus Disciples. Jesus says John 8:31 (KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; So only those who are actively believing now with an obedient faith. Is this not works? No! It is genuine faith! This is true biblical security. The term "snatch" means
7.UES *Romans 6:8 "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him."
7.EVG-TV Refuted - The answer is in the context of the scripture Romans 6:8 (KJV) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Now- The Present Particle of the Greek meaning Right Now. Not some time in the past.
if we be dead with Christ 每 If we are dead with Christ Now not if we died with Christ as stated above falsely.
We Believe - What we must do again is to understand what the word Believes means ANSWER: The word here and in Jn.
we shall also live with him 每 Those who are right now Believing ,Believe that if they CONTINUOUSLY KEEP BELIEVING the Father, that is, his testimony about Jesus. Then those who do will Live with Him in His Resurrection ※of Life§.
The Scripture continuously warns against sin we find the answer in
Romans 6:15-16 (KJV) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
We will never be condemned, as long as we keep this condition -- a continued 100% trusting in Jesus for our soul's salvation.
8.UES *Romans 8:9-10 "You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness."
8.EVG-TV Refuted - The answer is in the context of the chapter we see that everyone that is in Christ Jesus don＊t walk in the spirit but this is for those who do.
Romans 8:1 (KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:13-14 (KJV) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The spirit will never lead someone in disobedience or sin conclusion only those that are led by the Spirit are the true sons of God.
9.UES *Notice the Calvinistic idea of the Perserverence of the Saints. If you belong to Christ, then the Spirit lives in you. And if the Spirit lives in you, the your general outlook and your lifestyle is not controlled by yourself (loss of free-will), but is controlled by the Holy Spirit. In which case, as it says in Rom 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." or if you prefer the King James "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (such a condition is automatically satisfied for those who belong to Christ as Rom 8:9,10 mention).
9.EVG-TV Refuted - [See pages 223-227] I believe in the necessity of placing the disciplines of proper behavior and restrictions on the flesh and bring my body under subjection. 1 Corinthians 9:27. My life is to be under submission to and controlled by the Holy Spirit. 2 Corinthians 10:5. What the Word of God teaches in these verses and many, many others is that you (the flesh) cannot do the things you (the flesh) wants to! To live a righteous spiritual life your body and it's appetites MUST be under bondage, or control, or be governed and constrained from doing what they want to do. It involves more than going to church - it involves every conscious act and your every thought, every value and every little thing - and especially anything that is specifically or remotely inferred in the Word of God.
If you're flesh nature is allowed to indulge and express itself you are still under bondage to the sinful flesh. That is bondage plain and simple.
They are 2 types of Bondage and we are all in bondage of one or the other.
Either your spirit man has your flesh in bondage or your flesh has your spirit man in Bondage. Read pages 223-227 for a more detailed understanding of Bondage.
John 8:34-35 (KJV)
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. [35] And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. ※again only those who are led by the spirit are the true and everlasting Sons of God.§
2 John 1:9 (KJV)
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. ※Those who Transgress and don＊t Abide in the Doctrine of Christ don＊t have Christ; sin separates them, only those who continues to abide in his doctrine being obedient to him truly have him.
Those who are disobedient to Gods word are under the Law and will be judged by the Law and Eternal Death is the result of the Judgment.§ See the Law§
1 Tim. 1:9 (KJV)
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10.UES *Romans
10.EVG-TV Refuted - The answer is Those who Love him and those who Lov