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UES denies the Biblical teaching on apostasy. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils" (I Tim. 4:1). UES say that it does not SAY "depart from their faith," but "depart from the faith," implying that these people were not true believers at any time in their life, and this is the position the UES teaching is forced to take in order to sustain its doctrine. But the people referred to here will depart from the faith because they are seduced and give heed to doctrines of demons. You can't seduce the unregenerate. They are already walking "according to the course of this world" and according to "the prince of the power of the air." They are already "children of wrath." Satan never ceased to dominate them. It cannot be people like this, that the Spirit meant The other uses of the word "depart" as found in Heb. 3:12; II Tim. 2:19; II Cor. 12:8; Acts 12:10; 15:38; 19:9, always involve reality. Eleven out of the twelve apostles were kept. God and Christ would have kept Judas Iscariot, if he had been minded as the others were. We do not have the space to give quotations from UES teachers in order to note the disposition that they make of this problem concerning Judas, but there is a unison of testimony among them that Judas was never a true believer, never really saved. "T6 the Law and the testimony." We much prefer the testimony of Scripture to the evasions of UES teachers. If Judas was saved, then you have a clear case of apostasy. We believe Judas offers just such an example. It should be noted that the statements that our Lord made about Judas being a devil, were made toward the close of His ministry. Note some Biblical facts: This was a statement about the end of the matter with Judas before the foundation of the world. In other words God Knew from the beginning that Judas would betray Jesus and this was why he was chosen.
Christ chose twelve Disciples, including Judas Iscariot. If Judas was a "devil" from the beginning as some claim, then you have the startling fact to face that our Lord chose a devil as an Disciple . First we must understand who are disciples in Gods Eyes.
Luke 14:26-27 (KJV) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. [27] And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
Luke 14:33 (KJV) So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
John 8:31-36 (KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; “[32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you
So the facts are unless Jesus is a liar and he is not a liar Judas followed Jesus. Forsook all for a period of time and obeyed his word until the last days of Jesus ministry. No intimations are made at the time of the choosing the twelve that Judas was not a true believer the same as the others. See Mat. 10; Mark 3; Luke 8. Reference to Judas Iscariot as the traitor is made by several writers of Scripture, long years after the incident of his death to distinguish him from the other Judas. It is a mark of identification and in itself throws no light upon the character of Judas Iscariot when he was chosen by our Lord. We have a similar designation regarding "Jeroboam, the son of Nebat, which made Israel to sin," which throws no light upon Jeroboam's character at the time the prophet Alijah brought him the message from the Lord. (I Kings
2. Our Lord foreknew who should betray "in' from the beginning, but Judas had the same teaching, call, environment, and opportunity to make good as did the others. Divine foreknowledge does not interfere with man's free moral agency.
3. If Judas was a devil from the beginning, then such terms as were prophesied of him hard to reconcile with the other teachings and principles of the Master. "Yea, mine own familiar friend in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me" (Psa. 41:9). Would Jesus, knowing Judas was a devil, trust in him or call him His "own familiar friend"? A "devil" is an adversary and enemy; but if, as some UES teachers think, Psalm 55 is a prophetic Messianic psalm of which Ahithophel turning traitor to David was a type of Judas turning against the Lord, then we have a second witness from the Psalms that
"it was not an enemy that reproached me." It was "a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance, we took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company" (Psa. 55:12-14). Certainly this language does not describe one who was a devil from the beginning, as UES teachers affirm.
4. If Judas was a devil, while the other eleven were ordinary men, then you have another contradiction; viz., Satan casting out Satan, because the apostles (Judas included) were sent out two by two to heal the sick, cast out devils, and preach the Gospel. There is no intimation in the Gospel records that Judas was a misfit on this missionary journey. Other emissaries of Satan, when they tried to cast out a demon by the use of the name of Jesus, were not at all successful. (See Acts
6. It was not until at the last feast that the devil entered into Judas, although Christ towards the close of His Galilean ministry (Jn. 6:6~71)***** announced that one of the twelve would betray Him. Christ was omniscient and knew all events that would be connected with His life here on earth. Covetousness, greed, love of money, were doubtless the besetting sins of Judas and despite the warnings of our Lord against covetousness and "the deceitfulness of riches," these sins got the upper hand of Judas and he finally went to the chief priests, and of his own free will bargained about the sale of our Lord for silver.
7. John 17 does not say that Christ only received eleven apostles from the Father. He chose twelve at the beginning of His ministry that they might be with Him, and Christ was unable to keep one. Not because of a lack of power on Christ's part, but because Judas was unwilling and this limited Christ's keeping power. "Those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them (that thou gavest me) is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled." The literal Greek of part of Jn.
If Judas, against his own will, was foreordained to be the betrayer, then the one who foreordained Judas would be responsible because Judas could not have helped it.
8. Last, "Judas by transgression fell" (Acts
If there were no erroneous doctrine to defend, the various references about Judas Iscariot would present no difficulty at all to the UES teachers. The Judas episode would be simply a clear case of apostasy from the truth. Any teaching that deals so recklessly with the Word of truth should be shunned. Any doctrine is false that tells you:
1. That Ananias and Sapphira as saved people could lie to God and the Holy Spirit and be smitten with divine judgment so that they died without repentance and were still sure of heaven. (See Rev. 21:8, noting particularly the words, "all liars.")
2. That the prodigal son was safe, as a son, away from the father in the far country, although he himself declared he would perish if he did not return and the father said he was both dead and lost.
3. That tells you that you can make "skipwreck of faith" and still anchor safely in the harbor of heaven. Shipwrecks do not reach the harbor, unless salvaged. (I Tim. 1:9.)
4. That tells you the salvation of the fornicator referred to in I Cor. 5 would have been secure, and that he would have reached heaven even though he had not repented, and despite the fact that the apostle Paul demanded his excommunication because he was unfit to remain in the fellowship of saints on earth. Any doctrine should he shunned that so perverts Scripture and thrusts sin within the veil, on the pretext that grace is not a covenant, and that God has given an unconditional pledge to all believers to carry them through, no matter how grossly they may disregard His Word. Dear reader, let me entreat you to look well to the possibilities before nurturing a doctrine so alien to the spirit of the Gospel of the grace of God. If UES teaching is true, then the opposer of the doctrine who has had a genuine Christian experience will fare equally with the UES promoter. On the other hand, if UES is not a Biblical teaching --and we do not hesitate to say it is not--then the UES promoter will have a sad record to face in the judgment day because of the blood of lost back-sliders who were made to believe that their salvation was secure in sin and backsliding when it was not. We see this in the Judgment of the Great Whore
Rev. 17:6 (KJV) And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, “Spiritual Blood-Those that were taught UES doctrine and backslid and went to Hell because they believed their E.S. was secure.”
and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. “Physical Blood –Some of Those teaching UES doctrine now will repent after they see that they were wrong and left Behind in the resurrection and they will be slain for the Lord.”
Now We will look at the fourth problem concerns the sincerity of the offer of the Gospel to all men. Can we be sincere in announcing,
"whosoever will may come," when only elect ones can come, and the others cannot, according to some UES teachers? Calvinists have wrestled with this problem for centuries. The present tendency among them is to abandon much of their creedal teaching along this line. This along with for God so Loved the World which means everyone and us don’t leave out the fact that God gives everyone a measure of faith to be saved what would be the point of having the measure of faith to be saved if you couldn’t be saved?
The writer is aware that many converts to the UES teaching did not think through all that is involved in this doctrine before they accepted it.
Errors of the UES Teaching
Reader, if you have become involved in this erroneous teaching, do not throw aside this article hastily. If you have the truth, it will stand investigation. If you do not have the whole truth, certainly as an honest and conscientious individual you should desire it. The writer (who once believed this doctrine) well remembers his reaction when accosted by well-meaning brethren who in-formed him he was in error in connection with this particular teaching. It is not according to human nature to relish the information that we are wrong. On the other hand, it is our friends, our real friends, who tell us of our errors. We shall endeavor to show that the UES teaching is erroneous from a number of viewpoints, while Christian assurance is a specific Bible teaching for the children of God.
1. UES as a teaching is based on partial Scriptures.
"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable." This teaching magnifies the "verilies," but discounts the "ifs"; yet both are given by God and are equally inspired. Conditions of salvation and conditions of keeping are not named in every Scripture. Scriptures of warning are addressed to such believers as may be careless, indifferent, trifling, boastful, or presumptuous.
The usual group of Scriptures quoted by the UES believers are the kind that are needed to encourage and sustain the fearful, trembling, and weak saints who earnestly desire to do the will of their Lord, but are harassed by the devil and beset with doubts. "Yet forty days and
They make it clear that we are safe in Christ Jesus. No outside power or influence, neither men, angels, nor devils, can come between us and our Lord; but there are conditions of salvation and there are conditions that govern our keeping. We do not question God's sovereignty, His power, His omnipotence; we believe and hold to all of them. On the other hand as honest people, we dare not close our eyes to the fact that God has laid a responsibility upon free moral agents that He does not violate by His sovereignty, His omnipotence, His election, or any other office or attribute belonging to Deity. The condition that saves is the same condition that keeps. UES believers constantly underscore "hath" in John
2. UES teaching wrests Scripture to establish its claims. It starts out with an unscriptural premise and is then compelled to give forced (and many times inconsistent and illogical) interpretations to some Scriptures to sustain the premise. The UES teachers will tell you that it is a New Testament doctrine, but they do not hesitate to gather "proof verses" from the Old Testament.
They will declare that a troublesome Scripture in the New Testament, that stands in the way of maintaining their doctrine, belongs to some other age, or it may have been written to the Jews, and is therefore not applicable to the Christian believer.
They cannot find an appropriate New Testament Scripture to show that what God does, He does for ever, so they will quote Eccl. 3:14.
It is not sound Biblical exegesis to support a New Testament teaching by the isolation of an Old Testament text from its context as is done in this instance.
b. They will use Rom.
c. They will quote Psa. 51:12 to prove that a believer loses the "joy of salvation" when he sins, but deny the right of others to quote Psa. 51:11. Let me quote from a pamphlet by one of the UES defenders: "One of the results of David's terrible fall was the loss of his joy of God's salvation. 'Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation' was his heart-broken cry. . . David prayed, 'Take not thy Holy Spirit from me' (Psa. 51:11), but this was under the dispensation of the law." Here you have two quotations from the same author and the same publication; a most unfortunate example of playing fast and loose with Scripture. You have the startling paradox here that David was a believer who had the Holy Spirit, and further that David was in danger of losing the Holy Spirit, hut could not lose his salvation, nothing but the joy of it. Reader, do you believe that David could have had salvation without the Holy Spirit? “see Grace “
d. They will tell you that Heb. 6:4-6 does not describe a true believer, and then will misinterpret the various statements to confirm their claim. They will deny that the word "partaker" (meaning "having part with") in this reference could mean actual connection with the Holy Spirit, but they accept the same word and allow the real meaning of the word without quibbling in Heb. 3:1, 14; 12:8; H Tim. 1:8; II Pet. 1:4.
e. They will attempt to show that the word "taste" in Heb. 6:4-6 did not mean participation in salvation or to experience anything of salvation, but they accept the same word without reserve and allow it to hold that very meaning in Mat.
f. They will attempt to mar the force of the word "abide" as found in Jn. 15:1-7, but will accept it without question when found in such verses as Jn. 3:36, 8:35; I Jn. 2:6; 3:14, 15.
In John 15 we have the language of a parable. Christ is the Vine. He says so. Christians are the branches. Unfruitful ones are taken away. They were in Him in verse two. "If any man" is usually applied to an unconverted one, but the unconverted are not in Him. This message was for age-long application and so Christ simply said: "If any man (literally 'any one') abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and men gather them and cast them into the fire." Let us review the symbols. Christ is the vine, Christians are the branches. Why should not the men (reapers) be the angels here like in Mat. 13? Fire in Matthew represents future punishment, why not the same here? Why insist upon symbolical language only where it fits the theory? Better adapt the theory to the Scriptures, than to attempt the reverse.
g. UES teachers play on the word "eternal." They say "that which is eternal cannot cease to be." But eternal life had a beginning in the believer. It is the life of God. It is the result of union with Christ. Eternal life adds nothing to the duration of the believer's existence. All men have eternal existence. Scofield says: "Eternal life is a phrase of quality of life, rather than of duration merely." Can this quality of life end in the believer? Has God given free moral agents something unconditionally that He cannot withdraw? The UES teaching so affirms. We believe the Scriptures state otherwise. Saints are always dependent upon God, even after receiving eternal life.
3. The UES teaching, if true, makes it safe for a believer to live in sin if he desires to do so. One who has just accepted the UES teaching will flatly deny this statement. In fact, the UES teachers will likely deny it also; but when pressed with the many problems that this doctrine develops, they will finally admit that a once-saved person though living in sin is safe as far as his eternal life and destiny are concerned. That my readers may know that I am not misrepresenting the doctrine, I shall give a few quotations from several different teachers:
The true plan of salvation is repentance towards God and faith in Christ Jesus (Acts
but there is another important aspect of eternal life that many are totally unware of in our day because of the false teaching of UES. According to true grace teaching, eternal life is also a HOPE (Titus 3:7), yet to be REAPED (Gal. 6:8,9) in the AGE TO COME (Mk. 10:30) for only the ones who PERSIST IN DOING GOOD (Rom. 2:7) and DO NOT GROW WEARY AND GIVE UP (Gal. 6:9).
If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature he'll die spiritually (Rom.
Because of the teaching of once saved always saved, grace has been taught as a license for immorality for so long, and without challenge, that when Scripture is quoted, such as 1 Cor. 6:9,10 or Rev. 21:8, it is disregarded, and the giver of God's Word is falsely accused of teaching legalism, bondage, works, etc. This reflects how truly dark are the days in which we live!
The ACID TEST question to know if a ministry or local congregation is teaching a license for immorality as condemned by Jude 3,4 is: Does true grace allow the sexually immoral in heaven? If their answer is "YES," avoid it like the AIDS virus! To sit under this teaching influence could mean that your soul and the souls of your loved ones will be eternally damned as a result. To support and promote such a ministry and teaching is to share in its wicked work (2 Jn. 9-11). This includes your financial donations! Flee from such a ministry or congregation and encourage others to do the same before it's eternally too late.
Those who pray in the Holy Ghost and keep themselves in the Love of God. If we love him we keep his commandments.
If ye continue in my word
John 8:31-36 (KJV)
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; “To put it in context we must continue in his word to be his disciples and continue in his word to be made free “[32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. [33] They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
[34] Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. “ Sin separates us from God and anyone who committeth sin is a servant to sin or in bondage of sin”
[35] And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. “ Who is your mother brother sister son or even daughter Matthew
[36] If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
“If we continue in his word we will be made free indeed”
We see who are the Children of God and Children of the Devil in .
John 14:23-24 (KJV)
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
What happens to those who don’t keep his word or don’t Love him
Rev. 2:4-5 (KJV) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. [5] Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
“Jesus is that Light candlestick”
Deut. 6:5 (KJV)
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Mark 12:30 (KJV) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
What will happen to someone who doesn’t obey Gods word?
John 15:6 (KJV)
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
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Romans 8:12-13 (KJV)
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:”We all will die in the flesh but this is Eternal Death and seperation from God” but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. “Eternal Life”
There is a Highway to Heaven
. Isaiah 35:8 (KJV)
And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
Not one thing that is unclean or with sin will enter into Heaven
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Hebrews
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
It takes Holiness to make it to Heaven
1 Peter
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
3 classes of people
1. the righteous /True sons of God
2. The Ungodly or Unrighteous –those who were once righteous or Godly in other words saved. To be Ungodly you have to have once been Godly they will stand with the sinner in Judgment.
3. Sinner–Those that have never known God as their Lord and Saviour.
Rev. 3:15-16 (KJV)
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
There is no middle ground per say with Jesus either you are hot or cold because if you are luke warm or not obedient to Gods word then you will be treated as cold or a sinner.
Rev. 21:8 (KJV)
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Isaiah 59:1-2 (KJV)
Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
2 Peter
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
Ephes. 5:27 (KJV) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
“The only ones whom he will present to the Father are the ones that are blameless without spot ,wrinkle or any such thing.”
.Jude
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
“The only way one can be twice dead is to once been a sinner then born again then die again spiritually or being separated from God no longer being born again”
2 Tim. 2:11-15 (KJV)
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
“If we don’t obey his word which is himself then he will deny us when we are judged we see this in ”
. Matthew
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
“How can he say he never Knew them who were once saved and operating in the Gifts of the Spirit?”
Ezekiel
Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
This the exact teaching as once we have repented of our sins and are born again he forgets our sin as far as the east is from the west. When we sin we are separated from God and he no longer remembers our righteousness unless we repent of our sin
Hebrews 13:5 (KJV)
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Deut. 31:6 (KJV) Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the Lord thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
2Tim.2:13
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself “ God cannot deny himself or his word we will all be judged by it now matter how we believe .
His word will not change for me or for you he has to be faithful to his word and cannot deny it.” 14Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. “Don’t strive for man made doctrines and traditions but for the truth which when obedient to it will make you free” 15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. “We had better study because we don’t want to be ashamed upon judgment day. The key to getting understanding is obedience.
John
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. “Reveal himself or his word to them that obey not to them who disobey”
John 14:23 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
“If you would like Jesus and the Father to Abide or dwell in you then you must be obedient to his word”
How can one receive help to overcome and walk in that perfect Love?
Ephes. 4:11-13 (KJV)
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: “How long did Paul say the 5 fold ministry will be around? “
13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
“We are not all in the unity of the faith believing the same way and are not all walking in the fullness of Christ yet but one day we will those who Get glorified.”.
“What is the only unforgivable sin ?’
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
How can one Blaspheme the Holy Ghost/Spirit?
The only way for one to do it is to have knowledge in the heart being born again and knowing of the Holy Ghost/Spirit and or once Baptized in the Holy Ghost/Spirit and denying the existence of the spirit or making fun of someone operating in the Holy Spirit/Ghost or cursing the spirit with true heart knowledge of it. Not being born again is not Blaspheming the Holy Spirit/Ghost That’s just being a dead sinner .”